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Fuel Pre-Heaters / Re: fuel pre-heaters
« on: January 28, 2024, 10:47:31 am »
I didn't use a float tank for very long and it was warm enough that I didn't need a heater so I don't have any good ideas to share.  After dealing with the troubles I had with my tank, I decided to build a metering pump.  An SSR is a solid state relay.  I would bet that they use the relay to turn the heating element on and off to keep the tank warm somehow.  Sorry I'm not more help with that.

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: question about a waste oil burner
« on: January 26, 2024, 09:09:52 pm »
I dont remember exactly.  I think it might have actually went out if I didn't keep the spark going.  Or it wouldn't burn cleanly. 

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: question about a waste oil burner
« on: January 25, 2024, 11:24:52 pm »
Good to hear you got it to keep running.  You will have to post back and let us know how it works when turning off the spark. I tried it once but didnt have very good luck so mine is on all of the time while the burner is on.

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: question about a waste oil burner
« on: January 24, 2024, 08:10:53 pm »
Everything looks blank in the pictures.  Do you have any lights when it is lighting or after it quits?

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: question about a waste oil burner
« on: January 24, 2024, 12:51:49 pm »
In your case you don't have an air solenoid and you don't need one.  You would use a solenoid if you had a large compressor with an air tank.  That air tank would always have air in it and if you didn't have a solenoid, the air would continue to flow, even when the burner was shut off.  In your case, you are controlling the air flow by turning your vacuum pump on and off, eliminating the need for a solenoid.  So when CK says to connect your solenoid to the valve terminals, you could just connect your compressor there instead.  The question that I am unsure about is if the valve terminals supply 110V, and if they do, would they provide enough current to start and run your vacuum pump.  I will look at my setup tonight and see if my pump is powered directly from the primary control, or if I have some sort of relay installed, I cant remember.  But in the meantime you can certainly plug and unplug it as you need.  When you plug it in, it should be providing air to siphon the fuel.  And then if you have spark, you should have ignition.  Now, as to why it is shutting down shortly after it starts, it seems like a safety kicking in somewhere.  Do you have a display on your control that indicates what might be happening?

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Fuel Pre-Heaters / Re: fuel pre-heaters
« on: January 22, 2024, 08:44:20 pm »
I hear ya Blane, I wish there was more activity too.  And I don't think facebooks are very good for archival information.  I like the forum layout better so you can browse topics instead of aimlessly scrolling through all random posts.  But whatever, its where a lot of discussion is going.  Probably some on Reddit too.  So many choices these days.

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Welcome Center / Re: HELLO FROM CENTRAL OREGON
« on: January 07, 2024, 12:30:53 pm »
Greetings MGerdau.  Pretty quiet in these parts since other collaborative methods have come along, for example Facebook groups.  I cant help you out with your particular problem, but just wanted to say that I have had the same problem with water in oil from certain sources.  People dont really care about waste oil and often times comes contaminated.  Water can be a real bummer, but thankfully it separates easily.  Good luck with your project!

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: fire not keeping up with oil supply
« on: January 07, 2024, 12:27:35 pm »
I do believe this is one of the challenges of a drip system.  When the oil is cold, it will drip slower, then as it warms up it drips faster.  I do believe you will need some sort of regulator on the oil supply side to keep too much oil from dripping in.

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: question about a waste oil burner
« on: December 14, 2023, 10:46:27 pm »
Good to see flame, but bummer to hear that it doesn't keep going.  If no air solenoid, how are you starting and stopping the air flow?  There is usually a flame sensor that will shut everything down if it doesnt see a flame to prevent fuel from going everywhere.  Is it possible the sensor is not seeing the flame or otherwise not working for some reason?

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Advice on buying a waste engine oil heater
« on: December 05, 2023, 01:06:43 pm »
I think they call them portable diesel heaters:

https://www.amazon.com/portable-diesel-heater/s?k=portable+diesel+heater

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Advice on buying a waste engine oil heater
« on: December 04, 2023, 08:46:36 pm »
Intersting, I'll have to check those videos out.

The smallest one I have seen is a forced air propane furnace converted.  Its tough though be cause waste oil likes a deep chamber and any small stove is going to have a hard time with that.  I am thinking a pressure or siphon system.  Maybe a drip system would be able to be scaled down a little.  You could drip it into something small like a fish house stove.

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Advice on buying a waste engine oil heater
« on: December 04, 2023, 07:50:55 am »
Hello Henney do dar,

I dont think I have ever seen anything small enough for that size space.  The diesel space heater would be a perfect size, but it looks like it soots up pretty fast if attempted to be run on waste oil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg2TKwwKQOo


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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Converting a corn stove to waste oil.
« on: November 29, 2023, 08:15:08 pm »
Sounds good, so a form of a drip system?  You should be able to control the burn with the needle valve and keep temps in check.  Good luck with your project!


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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Converting a corn stove to waste oil.
« on: November 28, 2023, 09:35:02 pm »
Greetings chuey_316!

I dont have direct experience converting a corn burner, but I would think as long as you can regulate the flow of the waste oil you should be able to keep temps in the range your stove can handle.  Be careful as waste oil does burn hot.  Sounds like an excellent plan on the cinder blocks.  I'm not sure on the temp rating of the stainless vent pipe, but if you can efficiently extract the heat, keeping it in the room, you should be able to keep the stack temps cool enough so you dont damage it.  Are you planning on some sort of drip system for your conversion?  Sounds like an interesting project!

Russ
 

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: question about a waste oil burner
« on: March 21, 2023, 07:09:55 pm »
I only used a solenoid when I used my big compressor.  You need something to cut the air off when the furnace is shut down or it would continue to blow air and siphon fuel along with it.  I just left mine in when I got my vacuum pump because I was lazy, but really wouldn't need it because the pump switches on and off with the burner with no storage tank to keep supplying air so it quits just as soon as the pump stops.

I am no expert on capacitors, but mine has an Amrad R2000/37-156 on it.

Hope that helps.

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