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User Projects & Pictures / Re: Tough week

« on: January 17, 2014, 03:58:48 pm »

I am curious about what others might be using for a centrifuge pump. I have an OC 50. My old pump is too large, it cavitates and when I slow it down cannot get enough pressure and flow, the small pump cavitates and wont make enough flow. I am in the testing phase only and my oil is around 100F. No money because of layoff so my options are very limited. I know some use a sbc pump, but I have no access I have this
.http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/Pumps/32-GPM-Hydraulic-Gear-Pump/8375354.pcess. I have this motor that i assume I can make into a pump. I have one of these http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/Pumps/32-GPM-Hydraulic-Gear-Pump/8375354.p
but it has not performed, it cavitates at 3500 rpm and does not get pressure high enuff at 1750. Anyway, what are you guys using?

LM

User Projects & Pictures / Tough week

« on: January 16, 2014, 03:41:32 pm »

Well not many posts so I guess I will try to keep some momentum alive. Been a tough week, I blew an o ring on a filter while testing and managed to spill 4 galls or so of wmo, what a mess. My pump does not want to flow wmo at 35 deg and is not giving me the flow I need for the fuge so I have to rip apart my setup and redo with a bigger pump. Tried heating the oil but the pump is spinning too fast (direct drive) to pull oil reliably. I have an old cessna pump that I may try to use. I am concerned my woodpile is shrinking faster than the winter and I cannot go into the woods right now.

I did try to use a small 1000w tank coolant heater in my return line for some limited testing, zero start and it works just fine thank you, so I will file that away for later. Shop is a mess and I oiled my clothes head to toe and sprayed oil on the walls, ceiling , floor, etc. I think in the spring I will move my ops to a small trailer on site so if I make a mess it will not be in the shop. Anyway, c'mon guys, post away tell us what you are doing, what works and does not for you.
LM

Waste Motor Oil / Re: water or steam injection to wmo burner

« on: January 03, 2014, 04:53:15 pm »

awfully cold in here, guess everyone is trying to keep warm. Been a tough week trying to stay warm and not burn up the woodpile....

Been working a bit in the shop, burnt about 10 galls of wmo/wvo blended with rug. The house I have been trying to extend the wood so I have been mixing a slurry of wmo or wvo , mdf and particle board sawdust in a cardboard tube with a hole down the centre. At -28C we go thru a lot of wood in this house (forced air) and this has been working very well if I have the draft blower on for excess air. I added a bit of snow to the sawdust and found that it helped to generate a bit of steam in the burn and help clean out soot.

In the shop a lot of wvo has water in it already and I leave it in suspension with the rug and find that my soot levels are fairly light. I measured the stack temp and found I am about 550 F after 30 min with intake air starting around 30 F and stopping around 60 F as I do not need it any warmer than that to work in. You can tell the difference from wvo to mo in that extra heat coming out the blower!

I stopped work on the metering pump for now, I am only getting a dribble out the pipe with the bypass spring out, gasket blocking the ports. My oil is aout SAE 50 so I put this on hold for now. May have to go electric pump and set it up as a 2 pipe unit. That can wait till later. I am redoing my setup for my centrifuge and heater and am redoing all the plumbing then will relocate it to a corner of the shop. After fuging I will pump into indoor fiberglass double wall tank as a clean wmo source to be blended into the day tank later. I will have a dump tank poly with a continuous 10 micron filter on it prior to fuging, likely using a suntec pump Hot tank is a John Wood 30 gallon oil fired heater I scored sometime ago. My pump is a hydraulic .16 cui that can easily generate volume and pressure for the fuge.

I keep my wvo separate in 45 gallon poly drums settling and take off what I need daily using a parts washer pump hanging in the mix. Viscosity is a bit much say 40 W but it works ok on the pump and lets me slowly blend with rug.

Some ask why am I not making black hho for the house? I do a bit but it is a HE unit sidewall vent and I do not want to soot it up as I have no brushes for the heat exchanger. I will add some wvo blended later in the spring and will do some lightly blended wmo later. I turned the pump up to 120 but I am only on a .5 gph nozzle so I need to be careful and not mess it up and screw up the auto backup feature when i am not home.

Too cold and snow too deep to be in the woods, my machine will not plow thru the deep snow right now without a tril or being plowed.

Any way stay warm

LM

Waste Motor Oil / water or steam injection to wmo burner

« on: December 29, 2013, 04:56:50 pm »

Ok to you serious burners, have or are any of you injecting water or steam in an effort to loosen/purge/combat soot build up in the burners and flues?

I have experimented only in the smallest sense by using a 1L pesi bottle sometimes with 1/4 full of water then wmo or wvo fill the remaining and set inside my wood furnace inside a metal tin.

The resulting steam and minor explosions help varporize the oil but I hope from what I see in the snow it is removing some soot from the flue.

I know the big boys use steam atomizers and some folks use a version of water injection in their diesels to reduce EGT and deposits and increase power.

My mind has some many things running thru it I would like to experiment with but the spirit is just not willing most days...

Scored 60L today of waste wvo I will warm and filter and blend into my shop furnace with some wmo already in solution. Tonight -17C later -24--28 thru out the week.

LM

Welcome Center / Re: Where abouts do you live?

« on: December 27, 2013, 08:48:03 pm »

just east of Ottawa Canada

Larry

Welcome Center / From the Ottawa Valley Canada

« on: December 27, 2013, 08:45:57 pm »

Hi, I am Larry from just east of Ottawa Canada. Been burning wood in furnace (indoor) here for the last 30 years, forced air oil as a backup in the house.

Burn WMO and WVO in forced air oil furnace in the shop, 1200 sq ' slightly modified pressure system. Burn't some over the years in a 12V Cummins, 7.3 IDI Ford.

My pressure setup is pump to about 140 psi, blended fuel using RUG or colored diesel whatever comes cheapest. Around here pump diesel is about $ 1.35 litre, (4.3L to one gallon) and rug at $1.25L

My wvo is canola oil have about 100 galls only and about 500 galls of wmo. It is becoming harder to get wvo anymore. Contracts are all the rage at fast food fryers, chip stands etc.

Currently am laid off from the RV business, (seasonal) so cash is not being so easy to get. I cannot easily get into the woods this time of year with the snow so deep, don't have a tractor just a little utility vehicle from 2 vw transaxles hinged in the middle, driven by hydraulic motrs, driven by 4 cyl toyota gas motor. I have a lot of ideas but am suffering from motivational issues (depression) no cash, no unlimited parts or supplies.

I want to build a waste drip for a small woodstove using a metering pump (suntec pump, windshield wiper motor) for my uninsulated outdoor room attached to the house.

I have a Mr Heater, 75Kbtu siphon feed, noisy sucker, burns mixed mvo and diesel some wmo.

I have a dieselcraft centrifuge, 2 oil fired hot water tanks, to be used to preheat prior to centrifuging. I have only fuged maybe 100 galls of wmo but unheated in the summer, blended with rug/diesel.

Have an 8.3 Ford diesel outback that i would like to play with, but useless to just have a motor only run......

I bled with up to 50% but mostly 30% rug to wvo that has been settled only, slightly higher to wmo that has been settled, minimal filtering. Mostly 20-50w stuff but some questionable black gold as well.

Burn about 5 bush cords of wood a year, 4x4x8 x 5 and about 100 galls in the shop. I have added some to house furnace but only about 50galls a year to about 100 galls of furnace oil.

Been really cold last couple of weeks, -28-30 C at nights so burning up a lot of wood. Do soak some of the crappy wood in wmo but not much.

Not much trouble to light off the shop furnace. Sometimes I have to help with a bit of burning newspaper in the firepot, but my blending usually lets it light off with minimal smoke.

So hello to all and I will lurk a while

Larry