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Waste Vegetable Oil / Adventures with WVO, etc Part II
« on: November 27, 2009, 08:50:50 pm »
I left off the last post with a successful running heater that required a lot of "Hands On" to keep running.  We were asking for a lot of heat and so we kept dumping more fuel.  In the last picture of the Ist post I posed with the stove during a good burn.  As you can see it was cherry red and I was still in 3 layers of clothes, gloves and a hat.  As we dumped more fuel in, we would hit a maximum combustion potential for the available air and the heater would begin to huff and puff and belch smoke.  This was usually followed up by the fuel overflowing out of the front door in a stiff black ooze.  In an effort to increase the available air we supercharged the stove by taking the blower fan out of a propane space heater and mounting it in the air intake.  Man did that make some heat!  It came with a drawback though.  Due to the cold temperature of the air in the building the combustion temp would gradually go down and then out, this took about 1 to 2 hours.  During all this, we would end up with burning fuel soup in the bottom of the heater that eventually pooled and overflowed (this was a recurring problem with the fuel soup and the temperature.)  We ditched the original fry pan design burner and after reading about Roger Sanders but not wanting to buy the unit we found a chimney cap from 4 inch flue and turned it upside down on the pedestal and filled it up.  This worked very well but the stamped steel had no thermal mass and would cool down, bubble up a black crust around the rim and then go out.  At this point we shelled out the money for the fancy aluminum Sanders unit and put it in.  One hour is all that it lasted.  The fuel overflowed the side and melted half of the aluminum into a puddle at the bottom of the heater.  So much for that idea.  In a moment of inspiration later that week I decided to stop fighting the pooling fuel in the bottom and embrace it.  I lifted the heater onto some cement blocks and directed the sidewalk torch we had been using to light the stove through a pipe elbow and blasted the bottom the heater.  The bottom of all these heaters is a pressure dome and thusly was just the inverse of the sanders idea and capable of dealing with a lot more fuel.  I left the burner pedestal in place inside the heater to act as a splatter plate.  This worked awesome.   We could open the valve full bore (1/2" line) and actually change the temperature in the building!  As the photo shows we were getting the stove REALLY HOT.  It was uncomfortable to be within 6 feet of it but it was definitely controllable with the valves.  With different site conditions I bet you could heat a pretty large space with this version of the MEN heater.      I think I finally came to a proof of concept with the new design and I would love figure out how many BTU's I was creating.  Look at the pictures and feel free to ask questions or tell me I was crazy. 

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Waste Vegetable Oil / Adventures with WVO, Glycerin, and UMO in one system!
« on: November 20, 2009, 08:32:23 pm »
Hi everyone, I finally have the time to tell the story of last winter, trying to burn all three fuels separately and sometimes at the same time in the same stove.  First a little back story: As I mentioned in my introduction post I built a MEN heater about 9 years ago out of junk parts (no cost) with some hard to read plans my father printed for me.  After a few boxes of welding rod we tried to light it on UMO and it raged!  It went though its temporary fuel supply and created so much heat that we were afraid to go near it.  I pronounced it a success and left it in my fathers capable hands.  For some reason or another it never worked right again (who knows why).  Fast forward to last winter and I had built a 30X40 uninsulated boat shed to rebuild a wooden catamaran.  The shed had 20ft ceilings and a dirt floor, single layer shrink plastic walls and roof, and a low spot in the floor that occasionally pooled water under the boat and froze into an ice rink.  I dragged the MEN heater out of the woods (literally) and cleaned the rodent nests out.  After some plumbing and piping we had it installed in the corner of the shed.  One of the guys I work with had been making biodiesel for a while and was having trouble dealing with the byproducts, glycyrol, glycerin, bad WVO and gelled biodiesel.  We decided to try and burn all of them in the stove.  Due to temperature issues (0-10 deg F) we could not start up on anything but UMO.  We got the system running and burned about 30 gal before we had the valving, lighting procedures, temp control etc all figured out.  At this point we tried dumping in some glycerin we had heated near another stove in a nearby shop.  As soon as we put it in the UMO tank it gelled and we were stuck.  Get out the heat guns, clear the lines and start up again.  After about a week of messing around with this idea we found a 55 gal drum strap heater.  This thing is great!  It came with an adjustable heat setting and would heat the whole mass of fuel to steaming in about an hour or maintain a warm temperature over night.  At this point we had figured out how to keep the fuel ready but the stove still got down to 0 degrees over night.  We were lighting with kerosene but it would not get things hot enough to keep the fuel lines from the tank to the stove warm...did I mention it was cold?  One solution we came up with was 2 tanks.  One for UMO and the other for the brown glycyrol, glycerin, biodiesel fuel soup that we were trying to burn.  We would start on UMO and then when things were warmed up, gradually add more and more fuel soup.  This worked OK and we got to a point of happiness at about 50/50.  It was about this time that we started to come to the working limits of the original burner.  I will talk about that in the next post.

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Welcome Center / This looks great.
« on: June 27, 2009, 09:19:39 pm »
Hi Everyone.  This site looks like a great resource.  I will be sharing the experiences I had this winter.  I built a MEN burner about 8 years ago and brought it out of the moth balls to heat a 30x40 boat shed with 20 ft ceilings.  No insulation, only a single layer of white shrink wrap plastic for walls and roof, and a wet dirt/mud floor (frozen most of the time).  I was rebuilding a wooden catamaran using a lot of temperature sensitive epoxy.  Did I mention I was doing this on the coast of Maine?  We had one of the snowiest winters I can remember and it was COLD!  It all worked out in the end, but what a learning experience!  I look forward to posting my adventures and sharing what I learned with everyone. 
Bucky

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