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wmo centrifuge project
« on: January 20, 2014, 03:52:22 pm »
!@#$@!@**%$, stand on one leg, let the planets align, have 3000 hp and voila we can move some oil..... After weeks of trying I finally managed to get my fuge running in a quick test.  I need 3/4 cap start motor, old JD combine scavenge pump turning backwards, 1" inlet hose and I can make the unit spin. I did pop an O ring but its been such a nightmare.  I hooked up the Parker gerotor to a 3/4 hp motor this am and not a hope to roll it over. Unit is not a cap start so not enough torque to turn it over so I abandoned that and kluged some other parts together.  I have had so many failures that I was thinking of packing it in this winter....  Current temp -17C but going to -25C -30 c tonight.  Made some sawdust logs with my shop floor mess to help with the cold temps.  The Alpacas are locked in the barn for the night.

Anyone using a air driven Pneumatic pump?

 If so what do you think of it? Reliable?  So now I will try to bring all the components online and process some oil as a test.  I have such a mess in the shop. No matter what you do everytime you take something apart it oozes everywhere ending up on the floor....

In Canada we have Princess Auto, your US equivalent of Harbour Freight. so I spend a lot of time there looking for ideas, inspiration and parts!  http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/Manual-Barrel--Hand-Pump/Pneumatic-Fluid-Pump/8326555.p

So after a long day, just wanted to let you all know I moved some oil and it was not on the floor!

Stay warm and post guys, lets get some creative ideas going.
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Re: wmo centrifuge project
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2014, 10:25:19 pm »
I have never gotten my hands on a pump like this, but I did put together a pressure system to empty out a 55 gallon drum with air pressure.  Similar to how Doug did it here:
http://wasteoilheaterforum.com/index.php?topic=102.45

Is your goal to transfer oil from a drum?  If so this works pretty good.  The least mess I have come across so far. 

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Re: wmo centrifuge project
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2014, 08:11:07 am »
Just looking for options, though I have too many....

Have 3 100 gal tanks steel, 2 100 gal tanks steel full wmo, 4 45 gall olive barrels full wvo, 60L centrifuge tank, 50L SS tank, 50 Gal poly tank,  250 gallon tote, 35 gal hho water heater.  So I need a couple of pumps that can transfer, not make a mess and be reliable.

I will think about gravity when I can but ceiling is only 9', finished, . I have a shop oil furnace as well.

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Re: wmo centrifuge project
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2014, 08:16:02 am »
I also have a vacuum pump and a sucker I made but use rarely, too much hassle to get it moved etc.

So guys, explain your layouts and what you are doing, I like others ideas and concepts, makes the creative juices flow,  -30C right now,  woodpile is shrinking

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Re: wmo centrifuge project
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2014, 09:36:17 pm »


What size sucker do you have? I was thinking of using 120 gal tank as a sucker/pressure set up. Sure would like to see some pics of your set up.

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Re: wmo centrifuge project
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2014, 10:55:56 am »
Not that big, maybe 25-30 galls, old water pressure tank.  I didn't need a big one and space is always a prob so I made it small. Manifold for suction or pressure.  Vac pump is from an old dairy farm setup,  I can make about 27 inches of vac in several minutes.  Again space an issue, it is right now in the wrong place in the shop and I cannot get to either easy, but I will fix that later.  Will try to get some pics next week, but it is fairly simple.  I retrieve any wvo in cubies, but all my sources have paying arrangements with others, wmo is brought to me in small jugs or 20L pails. I made only one road trip for wmo and never ever again like that......

I am going to try starting next week to redo some things and finally do some things so I hope for progress.  I think we have a bit of a respite on the cold but will still be min 25C at nights.


Going to pick up some E85 later. We have only 1 pump in the city.  I will try some blending experiments.  I wonder if acetone will help in HHO to lessen the coking around the nozzel?

Glad you are able to post in, thought I was alone in here,  8)

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Re: wmo centrifuge project
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2014, 12:20:38 pm »


There was a youtube video of a guy mixing acetone with waste motor oil and burning in his pressure system. I think I sent the link to Russ when he was using his pressure system.
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Re: wmo centrifuge project
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2014, 06:29:55 pm »


  Look at the size of this guys super sucker.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0cb3lr74Nc
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Re: wmo centrifuge project
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2014, 08:31:47 pm »
Nice setup but... what if it is cold, snow etc?  I am too old to be trying to work outside like that in the snow!  I spend enuff time off season doing removals and plowing rather work inside LOL


My little tank takes care of pails bigger than 20L that are too hard too lift or play with.


Most of my wvo has been used canola oil from Dairy Queen, wonderful stuff but Sanimax got upset so I lost that line. Tried to hit up some fry trucks but have lost that too.  My wmo I can easilly score 100 galls or more a year.


I am happy with my pressure furnace in the shop, works reliabily, burn the dregs in sawdust logs. Am using mostly wvo in the shop this year with every 5 galls or so wmo.


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Re: wmo centrifuge project
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2014, 10:42:35 am »
Have you looked at how the biofuel folks transfer and centrifuge there oil?
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