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weil mclain 68 boiler Waste oil conversion + Upgrade
« on: February 21, 2012, 07:25:43 pm »
Im currently upgrading my Boiler hardware so I post pics and info as I go

Heres Before Pics

I dont like how it Looks and was a testing Setup, Now it works and the wife and kids love it so .... On to the upgrades


Upgrade 1

starting with my Rifeng 8 Zone Manifold

And Thermal Actuators  Im planning for a fully Automated system with Individual Room zoning and Temp Control


I will have After Pics Posted Soon then its onto the good stuff which should be here Fri The Burner Conversion to Waste oil Tap so far $540.00 Bucks (fittings get pricey)

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Re: weil mclain 68 boiler Waste oil conversion + Upgrade
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2012, 08:37:58 pm »
MSCHINDLER,

Looks like a great project. Looking forward to learning and watching your progess.

As far as the money, once you start heating with waste oil you'll get a fast return on your investment.

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Re: weil mclain 68 boiler Waste oil conversion + Upgrade
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2012, 10:26:21 pm »
Yes, looking good.  I am in the middle of my boiler project as well, and yes, all of the parts add up in a hurry.  I didnt really anticipate needing all of the different things, expansion tank, air eliminators, pex crimper, etc... although as Doug said, the ROI will hopefully happen rather quickly with free, or nearly free fuel!

Good job and keep us updated.

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Re: weil mclain 68 boiler Waste oil conversion + Upgrade
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2012, 06:24:34 pm »
OK heres another pic of the current Status

Got the manifold mounted still have some unistrut to mount (thank you Maint at work for being SO!!! Waste!! FUL!!!) so i snag the unistrut out of our scrap bin.... there loss my gain.  I started routing the pex trying to make it neat and organize found Plastic Conduit to work well for guiding it to where I want it

I have more PIcs tonight after this is all done Nice coat of paint will be next Waste oil parts will be here tommarow so friday i will start on the burner conversion 

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Re: weil mclain 68 boiler Waste oil conversion + Upgrade
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2012, 06:54:47 pm »
Just wondering Has anyone try using Hot water from there Boiler with a heat Exchanger (Tube and Shell Style) To Preheat there Waste Oil??? Im thinking of Trying it as I have about a 8 Ft run from Tank to Furnace and Believe I could get it to 160- 180 with a Tube Shell Heat Exchanger then you a Back up Element for Cold Starts     

Feed back or Ideas Welcome this boiler is Also used for DHW so it runs year around

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« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2012, 07:45:25 pm »
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Re: weil mclain 68 boiler Waste oil conversion + Upgrade
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2012, 11:49:34 pm »
well got the Oil Burner converted .... and having problems getting the oil to ignite gonna try agian here in 30 mins i raised the preheated oil up around 120 - 130 see what happens

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Re: weil mclain 68 boiler Waste oil conversion + Upgrade
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2012, 12:35:35 am »
I have a little tweaking to do Seem my Nozzles off Center (flame is off to the right of the burn chamber ) it burns fine with Diesel Mix, i no a few other people had problems on here with Getting the settings right so im gonna tweak it a little more before I Purchase anything else

Well Good night its 1 Am here Im giving up for the night


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I ended up staying up OK I got it to run 100% Waste oil at 205 Deg Nozzle Temp but It burns really Dirty Black smoke ..... Someone get me some help on why its smoky I try giving it a little more Air and it starts to Sputter  Also im running at 105 PSI on my Pump
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« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2012, 07:31:49 am »
I don't have any experience with pressure systems. With my siphon system if it starts to smoke black there's to much combustion air. Sounds like your going in the right direction. Hopefully Russ will jump in he's ran a pressure system.


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« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2012, 03:34:25 pm »
well I think im understand why people like Siphon System more seem to be Trouble free if this doesnt work ... I have a CKBurner Kit sitting in a box rdy all I got to do is install it ....... (I bought it as a Back up Plan LMAO)

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« Reply #10 on: February 27, 2012, 11:40:47 am »
What's your next step on the pressure system?   

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« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2012, 11:11:46 pm »
Exactly the reason I am working on switching to a siphon system as we speak.  The pressure system is tricky to get going.  I always have to adjust the temp up, air down, and pressure up when I light the system.  I have found that larger nozzles seem to light easier, although they put out too much heat.  Things start to glow red that really shouldn't!  Once the system is started, then its no problem keeping it going with lower pressure and lower oil temp.

If you have a siphon block on hand, I would recommend switching to that if you want a reliable, easy to start system.

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« Reply #12 on: February 29, 2012, 11:28:15 am »
Thank You Russ and everyone else  I have already started switching to the siphon System ... and im not turning back almost complete now

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Re: weil mclain 68 boiler Waste oil conversion + Upgrade
« Reply #13 on: February 29, 2012, 06:31:01 pm »
having problems cant get it to fire 170 F Preheat  tryed messing with Air Adjustment and still no fire im lost ... i keept messing with adjustment see what i can get My Air PSI is 10 went from 5 to 15 and stii cant get to fire............ at 170 Preheat tryed running diesel to Engine Oil .... My Nozzle and igniters are FLush with Retention Head im using a CK Burner Kit  there not arking out with Retention head

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« Reply #14 on: February 29, 2012, 08:26:48 pm »
Try bumping up your preheat temp to 180*. Keep your air pressure under 8lbs. This site will show you how to adjust your electrodes http://www.beckettcorp.com/protect/techsuppt/product-manuals/6104BAF%20R0803.pdf.


This is from ckburner troubleshooting page.

  
"Burner starts but does not light"


Poor retention head position.

Clogged nozzle.

Poor electrode adjustment.

Improper combustion air adjustment.

Insufficient pre-heat temperature.

Poor combustion chamber – try adding a liner.

No atomizing air.

Spark shorting to ground or the nozzle, retention head, etc.

Too high of a pre-heat temperature.

 

"Failed start"


Electrodes shorted and no spark.

Clogged nozzle.

Gummed up nozzle affecting spray pattern.

No air pressure

Insufficient preheat.

Too much preheat.

 
 

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