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Drip System / Re: OZZERT burner rules
« on: September 20, 2012, 03:49:22 pm »
Inquiring minds want to know:
  • What's your fuel consumption?
    How much space do you heat?
    How (good or bad) is your insulation in that space?
    How did you overcome build problems?
    What would be different, if you built another?
Thanks for the report, OILHEAT. ;D

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Waste oil from airplanes
« on: September 19, 2012, 12:15:48 am »
Fuel (& the lead it contains) does mix with crankcase oil in reciprocating internal combustion engines, though it is normally in very slight amounts.
Compression and oil control rings prevent most of this undesirable mixing, but not completely.
    During overly fuel-rich conditions, traces of fuel mix with the film of oil clinging to cylinder surfaces.  If an engine is "flooded", most oil is washed off cylinder walls and puddles around the pistons.  (In extreme cases, it "ponds".)  Before firing, some diluted oil is pushed past the rings on compression strokes where it mixes with the oil in the crankcase.  Worn or damaged engines let more of this occur.

Draginmopars,
That garage is outrageous . . . a grand idea, sir.
What sort of plane had a fuselage that fat?  A C-130?

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Here is a Drawing of my Drip Burner Idea
« on: September 18, 2012, 11:22:43 pm »
8 Months passed since you posted  :o  Ready or not, here it comes . . .

Some questions about that cool idea for a burner, kind sir, if you don't mind.
You have any details on fuel consumption, heat results, and clean-up?
Did you have to modify anything?
How did you decide the spacing of the rotors?
I be a bit bewildered on that intake .  ??? It could mere illusion.
 It looks intensely as though it is jammed into the exhaust stack.
What say you?

Tricyclerob -
Quote
"My stove has the drip tube ending 2" from the end of the air intake tube. . . away from the heat of the flame . . ."
How far is that from, mmm, something else?  Maybe the burner pot bottom?

Thanks guys,

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Waste Oil Filtering / Re: Whole house water filter
« on: September 18, 2012, 08:48:50 pm »
I don't anything excessive about it, Sir.

Have you read Kyles postings regarding Micron Sizes & Particle Filtration?
 - http://wasteoilheaterforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=20

Depending upon brand, PH8 filters vary between roughly 22 or so & 45 - a mighty big spread.
100 mesh should be about 37 micron.
12 to 20 micron should be easily found, and ensure that oil is clean.

Russ -
Checking the filter details at the NAPA filter cross reference site will quickly show which filters will fit that head and how well they strain the garbage.

Shalom!
Cmdr. Ron

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Waste Oil Filtering / Re: WVO Centrifuge Filtering
« on: September 18, 2012, 06:08:36 pm »
Nope.  Sorry.

Do it, document every detail, and post it.

Inquiring minds want to be knowin'.
 :o
Shalom!
Cmdr.Ron

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Waste Oil Filtering / Re: filtering wvo?
« on: September 18, 2012, 05:51:02 pm »
Hey, Revolution -
You ever find the answer(s) to your 10 month old filtering question?

It depends upon your use.  You didn't say (stove, furnace, engine, etc).
  (For diesel injectors, absolutely no bigger than 10 micron, preferably 2 to 5.  I use 10 & 12 micron on my aux. engine oil filter.  As much mayhem that can result when a furnace quits, I'd want it mighty clean.)

Kyle posted some very useful data here on Micron Sizes & Particle Filtration
 - Link is  http://wasteoilheaterforum.com/index.php?action=profile;u=20
and there are some other posts on this board involving filtering.

Shalom!
Cmdr. Ron

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Waste Oil Filtering / Re: oil pump
« on: September 18, 2012, 05:05:44 pm »
Wowser, Houser, that's a whiz-bang idea!
I be likin' that.  I be likin' that right much. ;D

With a little heat under the tanks, my WVO should flow quite nicely.
That could be made to work for collection, too.
Yes, it's a year & 8 months old.  So what?

Shalom!
Cmdr. Ron

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Waste Oil Filtering / Re: Delavan Recomends
« on: September 18, 2012, 04:33:11 pm »
This is a very old posting, but I be curious.
 ;D
Did you mean De Laval, rather than "Delavan"?  Or is that another brand?

The US Navy uses 2 brands of filters.  We had De Laval filters in both engine rooms aboard USS Duluth (LPD-6).
  It's my understanding they also manufacture filters for dairy use.

Shalom!
Cmdr. Ron

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Welcome Center / A Question on Mixing Fuels
« on: September 18, 2012, 04:03:58 pm »
I don't know where this should post, so I hang it here, hoping everyone with experience will respond.

While reading "Burning vegtable oil do's & dont's", a large question arose.
 -> Why not mix WVO & WMO for fuel?
 The suggestion has me wondering if there is something else about my fuel choice to consider.

I am redoing & modifying a kerosene stove to be a dripper for heat this winter,
   another brand set-up for kerosene (instead of #2), but is similar to a post here 2 years ago in "User Projects & Pictures" as:
 -> man, that was easy. Siegler burner
« on: October 24, 2010, 07:32:30 pm »

It's possible I missed it, but I looked through most of the sight for an answer before posting.

Shalom!
Cmdr. Ron

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User Projects & Pictures / Re: Finally a working waste oil heater
« on: September 15, 2012, 11:19:58 pm »
SHALOM!

Given that most Turk Burners I see sorely lack explanation, there are a couple bits here with which I can help.

    Inside the outer shell is a bucket shape layer of refractory cement, much like the "works" in a small foundry.  Refractory cement is used because of the intense heat some of these things generate.
    The blower pushes combustion air into the burn pot (like a turbo on an engine).  Fan positioning forces a swirl around the inside of the refractory lining, which results in more complete combustion, typically well over 1,000 F.

Some Turks and foundries feed the fuel into the air inlet so they mix better enroute to the flame.

    With a very small fan, they easily melt aluminum.  With a bit more fan, steel melts.  Unless photo perspective is off, or cfm output is lower than it appears, that fan is comparatively huge, more like a foundry I glimpsed that melts cast iron. :o

    While exploring this stuff in search of a waste oil dripper that would output 30- to 50,000 BTU, I toyed with the idea of using one of these things with a tiny computer muffin fan to limit the heat to what I considered safe to use in my house.

That's about it, guys.  I hope it helps.

Cmdr. Ron

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Spiral/coil waste oil burner
« on: September 15, 2012, 05:45:15 pm »
SHALOM!
Did you ever get an answer on that tight coil, Mike?  Your post date shows 19+ months since asking, with no response until now.  This has been on my screen several times the last month or so.
Because it is GreenTrust, this is probably a spin-off, but the line drawing is clearer than i remember the photo's being.

Door knobs weren't designed for oily hands.

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: What do recyclers do with waste oil?
« on: September 15, 2012, 05:36:14 pm »
SHALOM!
Sorry, Neil, no idea how much they make of it, yet.  That's one I've wondered, too.  What ever it is, it be purely profit.
There have been recycled lube oils on the market for a few years, but they always keep a very low profile about it, because of the sadly low understanding of the consumers.
    Oil does not wear-out; additives do, but not the oil.  That is correct, sir.  Navy ships carry tens of thousands of gallons of lube oil for the many engines and equipment.  On our ship, both engine rooms continuously filtered it, stopping only long enough to clean the huge mechanical filters once during each 8-hour watch.
    We never had more than a few specs of contaminates in the filters due to the severity with which we knew was required to keep a war ship battle-ready.  Because of that training & understanding, I built and use an auxiliary 10-micron filter on my pick-up to eliminate the soot inherent to diesels
    Clean oil is nearly clear like water - much lighter than amber, a color so faint that it's difficult to see.  Additives and contamination are what ya see on the dip stick.
Back to you in the booth.

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Welcome Center / Greetings & Intro in Fla.
« on: September 15, 2012, 04:43:28 pm »
Ahoy, Folks!
    The name is Ronald.  Please call me Ron, Ronald, or use my title / user name, Cmdr. Ron.
    No matter which, let's have some fun exploring & sharing information on the varied ways to put an otherwise wasted valuable fuel to good use.
    A few years back, I used new SVO in my Datsun diesel and learned the hard way it should be heated before it hits the injectors.  Waste Oil collection & filtering slowly crept forward with the knowing I could use it to prosper.
    Determined to not to be put-off by mere ignorance, I scored an old oil stove to fuel with nearly free waste oil.  They're becoming rare finds in Florida, as is the lack of folks who know much about them.  Every year the mercury drops into the 20 degree range, but most locals claim ignorance of oil heat, believing lies of minimal insulation, heat pumps, and open-front fireplaces. :-\
   The stove's ID plate was too obscured by crud to read until I brought it home and cleaned a few years of weather exposure to paint & install.  It was designed to burn kerosene, so it could take a bit more to convert it.  Either way, I choose to heat my house with it this winter.
    So it is that your forum has caught my eye.  The previous couple went a different direction.  Time spent searching archives and asking questions was not without benefit, but leaves far too many questions to set a pot of burning oil in the living room for heat.
    My apologies for the windy intro, folk.  Extra information from me now could eliminate time expenditure or be very fruitful.  With many years of thermodynamics & construction experience to share, I hope to be of help to you all.
Thanks. ;D
SHALOM!


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