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Waste Motor Oil / Re: MEN type heater
« on: September 22, 2012, 11:55:25 pm »
Disclaimer:  I be not from here.
What I wonder could be here somewhere.  If so, please forgive asking repeat questions.  This only looks long.  Don't be fooled by all the print.  Some speculation is expected.

Thanks, up-front . . . I am extremely grateful for any & all information and/or helpful suggestions you share.

You built & tested & trouble-shot one, so I ask about the potentially boring details.  That was a year & 1/2 ago.  I read a few things you wrote in the between, but not much definitive.  Is it burning clean & hot now?  Post any pictures I missed?  What's your MPG?
Is the machine you built copied from the 1ST or 2ND TMEN burner?  Or is it like Spike's with the fire hung outside?
 - (With 2 TMEN, Spike, Roger Sanders, and Ozzirt burners, plus the others out there, I need a smidgeon more clarity.)

Near Chattanooga, huh?  It do get cold there.

What was the fuel rich thing, and what was the fix?  Too little combustion air, coupled with incomplete mixing would make sense.  My truck smoked white-gray & lost power (big time) when the air filter clogged.  It sure did pour black smoke, burning the fuel coating when it got a new K&N.  WVO has to be 150F+ before introducing it to the flame or it soots & coke badly.

I'm surprized the rather short funnels (intake, over the burner - right?) works as well as they do.  If yours is longer, it should only improve the swirl, burn, etc.  Aerodynamics.
The Headers by Ed website has a ton of data explainin' the theory better than I do.  That intake pipe is an air plenum.  Flow tolerates gradual changes far better than ripples, roughness, and abrupt angles.

That oil pump idea is whiz-bang.  I be likin' that & the power steering pump, right much.  I needed them last winter.  Wait a minute while I tell my brother.

There are portions of the burner I don't understand, yet, mostly from lack of information.  These are a bit different than the ones sold in 1970.  Your burner is entirely within the tank, where the fire is contained.  Right?  How tall are the sides of the lowest pot?  Ya think a cast iron Dutch oven would be useful, or too tall to burn correctly?  I want to contain the oil in the event of too much oil at the wrong time.

Cool observation.  The wind does blow water through the blocks, sorta.  (There's a long word for it.  Something like hydro-graphic or hygrographic - sounding like hydrostatic).  A little extra pressure on one side pushes the water as it pulls itself into tiny passages in the porous block.
O my, the end.  Thanks again, Ryan.
 - Ron

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Used Motor oil for heating 2
« on: September 22, 2012, 08:40:40 pm »
Thanks Techdif,
I just read your of adventure shorting the steam table
 (Used Motor oil for heating 2
« Reply #7 on: 09 January 2011)
I'm glad no one was hurt (BIG time).  Gotta tell ya thanks for the laugh.
Ya can't buy entertainment like this. ;D
- Ron

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: exhaust
« on: September 22, 2012, 08:20:51 pm »
Run it through a propane tank or two as part of the stack.

Where's the penny coin slot on this thing?

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Hot water heater
« on: September 22, 2012, 08:17:10 pm »
Cannon:

If you're out there, bring some photos & detail for us, please.
  inquiring minds wanna know.
    O, and some nachos would be nice, too

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Welcome Center / Re: Legality of using a waste oil burner in one's home
« on: September 22, 2012, 08:02:04 pm »
Now, NIK,
 You know they don't like it when you display that bad attitude about their throttle-hold on citizens.

  • One of my slow-downs (aren't there always?) on this massive project was how to handle the insurance companies who happily take money to insure open fireplaces, but refuse non-furnace oil heat.
    Ding!  Incorporate it into a superinsulated outdoor high-mass wood-fired heater.  Plans sold intermittently for 30 years by TMEN called it a H.A.H.S.A. (Heating And Heat Storage Apparatus).
    Not "trendy" enough, less efficient mass-produced units are now "outside boilers".
    Not enough time before winter, just put a dripper in the livingroom and burn waste oil collected for my truck.
    Lacking enough accessible experience & information dragged it into another year.
Then I found this forum . . .
Ready.  Set.  GO!

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Welcome Center / Re: Where abouts do you live?
« on: September 22, 2012, 07:28:50 pm »
Northeast Florida, U.S. of A. the last 22 years.

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Welcome Center / Re: LOW FUEL SWITCH
« on: September 22, 2012, 07:23:21 pm »
O goody-goody, I can finally help. ;D
World famous J. C. Whitney (or nearly any parts emporium) carries universal automotive floats for fuel tanks.  The bountiful size of a tank from a big truck (beep! beep!) might require modifying it, or finding one for a similar rig.
    Most require mere milli-amps of 12V to 14V DC, and are "plug & play" - available as close as your nearest 120V AC to 12V DC transformer.  It's far less complicated than a Waste Oil Heater.
    Merely run juice from the positive lead through a relay to control the pump, then through the float switch to ground.  You might even tie it to a fuel level gauge, too.  :o  Way cool.  If your pump is AC, please be sure you use a relay rated to accept a DC signal and control an AC line voltage.  I think that's called a PID relay, but memory fogs.

Happy trails,

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Welcome Center / Re: Hello From Eco Heating Systems
« on: September 22, 2012, 06:23:24 pm »
Many fail to grasp the difference between "unlawful" & "illegal".
 - One is against the law; the other is a sick bird. ;D

Each of the 50 sovereign states collectively comprise the United States.  I am a combat veteran, naturally born U.S. citizen, but do not live in Maryland.  Though many are similar, the laws of each state are of that state, not the other states or the nation I am sworn to defend.

    There exists a severe gap between "UL listed", safe, fire codes, and lawful (or not).  They are not synonyms.
An even larger gap . . . nay, a chasm is maintained between these and the general misconception of them held by an uninformed public, the overwhelming majority of which is incapable of grasping the concept sufficiently to understand the question.

    In the interest of everyone's enjoying a pleasant forum to exchange ideas and information, wise behaviour for us all is to refrain from pushing the political and intimidation statements of fear blatantly demonstrated throughout that introductory post advertising what is held to be manufacturer of a fine example of American know-how.

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Welcome Center / Re: Hello
« on: September 22, 2012, 05:02:45 pm »
We spent a week below 20f not long ago.  Heck the neighbors beagle dogs was over here looking for booster cables so the jump start em a rabbit ;D
Yo, TECHDIF,
With humour like that, we'll get along fine.
Hmm, that puts you somewhere in the rolling hills - near Gatlinburg.  You ain't far from the mountains.

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Welcome Center / Re: Hello from ( new ) members
« on: September 22, 2012, 04:27:32 pm »
Ahoy there, Harry,

Wowser, Howser, houseboat!  What a restful idea it is.
 - Because I was Navy, I ask you to please tell me you are not new to boats.
What sort of water temps do you anticipate?  It makes more difference than some think, as it can & will absorb a ton o' heat.  That can be quite useful, or more than a nuisance.  Heat travels OUT, not up.  The right insulation will float yer boat & slow the flow ow heat.
  More on that later, film at 11.
My opinion matters little on it, but use a drip burner.  If you burn WVO, you could be the "Adelaide Fry-Daddy" (smells like deep frying chicken & potatoes). ::)

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Welcome Center / Re: Greetings & Intro in Fla.
« on: September 22, 2012, 03:58:55 pm »
Thanks, RUSS.
In some cases, I intentionally ignored the time spans of posts, in hopes to stir some of that meaningful dialogue before winter.
Not all boards function or operate the same, so if I step on a toe or two, just let me know - such be not my intent.  Like most folk, I'm here to find (and share) information.

There were a couple questions bridging topics, but at the moment ... uh, what was it?
Hmm.

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Compressed Air Sources / Re: refrigerator type compressor
« on: September 20, 2012, 08:01:27 pm »

    My 8th grade "Science" teacher (over 40 years ago) used a reefer compressor as both a compressor and as a vacuum pump.
 - Jr. High Science is merely Basic Physics = introduction to how things of this world work.
    A friend used one with a tank to power his airbrush.  I am about to replace a bad air compressor on a medium tank with one.
    I saw one mounted on a smallish tank (maybe 2' x 1') in a garage powering a forge type burner some guy was building in a YouTube video.  No follow-up video, though, so no idea if it kept-up with demand.
    Yes, Russ, they be super quiet and efficient, too.  Most run 40 minutes of every hour, and cost only about $5 per month.    Sadly however, they are designed to pump substance in a gaseous state, not liquids.
O, well.  Onward & upward.

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Drip System / Re: old german drip system, need grates, advice
« on: September 20, 2012, 05:25:24 pm »
That be a really great find ya got there, STUBBORN66.

A 7-Gallon tank in the heat?  Cool.
  1 cu ft = 7.48 gallons
I agree with your supposin' 'bout the safeties.  There be a ton of good reasoning there.
 That switch in the second pot - is that a float switch of some sort?
 I likes the thermocouple to on/off the pump.
  Can you tell anything about the relay to which it would connect?
 Would you share the rough dimensions of the cast iron burner pan in the bottom?
 What's the fuel consumption on that puppy?

Thanks

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Drip System / Re: New Guy / Switch to Waste Motor Oil Topic
« on: September 20, 2012, 04:52:19 pm »
Take 2 - WiFi failed, all data lost again

TRICYCLEROB -
What did you do?

The question of outside combustion air has been pestering more as install of the dripper nears.
I agree (BIG time) with it for users of large air volume - wood & coal stoves & furnaces.
Without turbo-charging them puppies, oil stoves use far less air. :o
  Therefore, they should send less up the stack - maybe.
I have wondered for years why the makers never convinced the fire code folk to let them use 4" stacks.
 It could be they make just enough heat that's hot enough to "enhance" chimney effect to the point that it is justified.
 - We be talkin' 20- & 30-degree weather, not sub-zero.
 
Thanks
Inquiring minds be wonderin'.

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Drip System / Re: Project: Kerosene heater/oil drip
« on: September 20, 2012, 04:11:59 pm »
Did everyone leave while I was in the head? ::)

KOOLKRIS -
 If you have time, I'd really like to see & hear detail of your stove.
 What's your typical fuel consumption?
 My 1960s Perfection Micro Pilot appears similar to the picture fireitup posted.

FIREITUP -
 I saw your stove on-screen elsewhere, maybe last winter.
 Glad you found some data to help.

Thanks, guys ;D

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