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Waste Vegetable Oil / Pre heat used canola/motor oil/hydrocarbon thinners
« on: January 03, 2019, 06:04:39 pm »
I will be using a 5 gallon hydraulic resv box as my supply source, heated with silcone pads 300 watts total and a 1500 watt water heater element dialed back to likely 300. I will be pulling oil with a single pipe system thru the water heater element fitting. Now do any of you guys stir your prime tanks to get the heat distributed better or just let em heat? Thanks for your thoughts. My mix will be primarily used veg oil, splash of diesel and another hydrocarbon. Gets to minus 20 C without starting the shop furnace.

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User Projects & Pictures / Crude idea of my setup
« on: January 25, 2014, 07:44:46 pm »
This is my crude attempt at showing what I am doing, hope it makes some sense.  I have other things as well but this is the main devices. Have not shown valves etc but u can get the drift/


Oil is circulated for multiple passes and heated then dumped to the 100 gall tank.  I will try some small scall automated mixing later but for now will stick with the grad pitcher method and my day tank.  I will try 20 ML of acetone per gallon of blend, which is 25% rug with mo or vo as the remaining.

LM

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Waste Motor Oil / cold ending soon?
« on: January 22, 2014, 04:40:13 pm »
 :o

Tried a little experiment this am, -33C outside, 40F in the shop.  2 gall of waste motor oil in a day tank, 1/2' pipe and valve (ball), open valve and no oil flows out.... too damm cold.

I am not getting anything done this week other than dirty my clothes, oil the floor and burn wood.  Am going to try and plumb the tanks together likely next month . I will take my ute out of the shop and park outside and set up some tables and get to work.

Still need a couple of transfer pumps, low pressure and flow I suppose 1-4 gpm, but I will look at a couple of hydraulic gear pumps and see if that works.  Standard oil burner pump will not do the job.

Ultimately I want clean centrifuge unblended oil into the 100 gall fiberglass fuel tank.  I will pump from there later to a day tank and blend there.  Have toyed with the idea of using a pressure washer soap injector to blend oil and rug that way,.... have to see. I use a 1 gallon graduated pitcher and blend that days blend and add to my day tank.

None of the locals share my interest in this subject so I am on my own .  Post what you guys are doing or not, what works  etc.   Wish I had a diesel to play with, but I sold my 12V back a ways and my 7.3 is also long gone so oil heat is my thing.

-25C currently, animals locked up, wood fire on and wait for Ice Pilots tonight,!  I am lucky enough to have flown in a DC 3 and an Electra when I was a air cadet and for work, so I enjoy the series and Ice road truckers as well.

Stay warm
LM

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Waste Oil Filtering / wmo centrifuge project
« on: January 20, 2014, 03:52:22 pm »
!@#$@!@**%$, stand on one leg, let the planets align, have 3000 hp and voila we can move some oil..... After weeks of trying I finally managed to get my fuge running in a quick test.  I need 3/4 cap start motor, old JD combine scavenge pump turning backwards, 1" inlet hose and I can make the unit spin. I did pop an O ring but its been such a nightmare.  I hooked up the Parker gerotor to a 3/4 hp motor this am and not a hope to roll it over. Unit is not a cap start so not enough torque to turn it over so I abandoned that and kluged some other parts together.  I have had so many failures that I was thinking of packing it in this winter....  Current temp -17C but going to -25C -30 c tonight.  Made some sawdust logs with my shop floor mess to help with the cold temps.  The Alpacas are locked in the barn for the night.

Anyone using a air driven Pneumatic pump?

 If so what do you think of it? Reliable?  So now I will try to bring all the components online and process some oil as a test.  I have such a mess in the shop. No matter what you do everytime you take something apart it oozes everywhere ending up on the floor....

In Canada we have Princess Auto, your US equivalent of Harbour Freight. so I spend a lot of time there looking for ideas, inspiration and parts!  http://www.princessauto.com/pal/en/Manual-Barrel--Hand-Pump/Pneumatic-Fluid-Pump/8326555.p

So after a long day, just wanted to let you all know I moved some oil and it was not on the floor!

Stay warm and post guys, lets get some creative ideas going.

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Waste Motor Oil / anybody out there?
« on: January 19, 2014, 03:39:10 pm »
 :)

I have not had time to do much, just discovered my Generac is leaking rug in the shop, an other thing now to worry about.
I am going to try the .58 ci  parker  ::)pump when I can to see if I can move oil without having to move the earth and get my fuge running.   I know some like aggressive gear pumps but I cannot afford anything right now so I will try what I have here to work with.

I have lots of wmo access but a lot of it is 20/50 so its thick as  well better than 50w .

I will sign off, hopefully other oil burners will post and give us some of their experiences.
LM

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User Projects & Pictures / Tough week
« on: January 16, 2014, 03:41:32 pm »
Well not many posts so I guess I will try to keep some momentum alive. Been a tough week, I blew an o ring on a filter while testing and managed to spill 4 galls or so of wmo, what a mess.  My pump does not want to flow wmo at 35 deg and is not giving me the flow I need for the fuge so I have to rip apart my setup and redo with a bigger pump. Tried heating the oil but the pump is spinning too fast (direct drive) to pull oil reliably.  I have an old cessna pump that I may try to use.  I am concerned my woodpile is shrinking faster than the winter and I cannot go into the woods right now.

I did try to use a small 1000w tank coolant heater in my return line for some limited testing, zero start and it works just fine thank you, so I will file that away for later.  Shop is a mess and I oiled my clothes head to toe and sprayed oil on the walls, ceiling , floor, etc.  I think in the spring I will move my ops to a small trailer on site so if I make a mess it will not be in the shop.  Anyway, c'mon guys, post away tell us what you are doing, what works and does not for you.
LM

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Waste Motor Oil / water or steam injection to wmo burner
« on: December 29, 2013, 04:56:50 pm »
 ::)

Ok to you serious burners, have or are any of you injecting water or steam in an effort to loosen/purge/combat soot build up in the burners and flues?

I have experimented only in the smallest sense by using a 1L pesi bottle sometimes with 1/4 full of water then wmo or wvo fill the remaining and set inside my wood furnace inside a metal tin.

The resulting steam and minor explosions help varporize the oil but I hope from what I see in the snow it is removing some soot from the flue.

I know the big boys use steam atomizers and some folks use a version of water injection in their diesels to reduce EGT and deposits and increase power.

My mind has some many things running thru it I would like to experiment with but the spirit is just not willing most days...

Scored 60L today of waste wvo I will warm and filter and blend into my shop furnace with some wmo already in solution.  Tonight -17C  later -24--28 thru out the week.

LM

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Welcome Center / From the Ottawa Valley Canada
« on: December 27, 2013, 08:45:57 pm »
Hi, I am Larry from just east of Ottawa Canada.  Been burning wood in furnace (indoor) here for the last 30 years, forced air oil as a backup in the house.  8)

Burn WMO and WVO in forced air oil furnace in the shop, 1200 sq ' slightly modified pressure system.  Burn't some over the years in a 12V Cummins, 7.3 IDI Ford.

My pressure setup is pump to about 140 psi, blended fuel using RUG or colored diesel whatever comes cheapest.  Around here pump diesel is about $ 1.35 litre, (4.3L to one gallon)  and rug at $1.25L

My wvo is canola oil have about 100 galls only and about 500 galls of wmo.  It is becoming harder to get wvo anymore. Contracts are all the rage at fast food fryers, chip stands etc.

Currently am laid off from the RV business, (seasonal) so cash is not being so easy to get.  I cannot easily get into the woods this time of year with the snow so deep, don't have a tractor just a little utility vehicle from 2 vw transaxles hinged in the middle, driven by hydraulic motrs, driven by 4 cyl toyota gas motor.  I have a lot of ideas but am suffering from motivational issues (depression) no cash, no unlimited parts or supplies.

I want to build a waste drip for a small woodstove using a metering pump  (suntec pump, windshield wiper motor) for my uninsulated outdoor room attached to the house.

I have a Mr Heater, 75Kbtu siphon feed, noisy sucker, burns mixed mvo and diesel some wmo.

I have a dieselcraft centrifuge, 2 oil fired hot water tanks, to be used to preheat prior to centrifuging. I have only fuged maybe 100 galls of wmo but unheated in the summer, blended with rug/diesel.

Have an 8.3 Ford diesel outback that i would like to play with, but useless to just have a motor only run......

I bled with up to 50% but mostly 30% rug to wvo that has been settled only, slightly higher to wmo that has been settled, minimal filtering. Mostly 20-50w stuff but some questionable black gold as well.

Burn about 5 bush cords of wood a year, 4x4x8 x 5 and about 100 galls in the shop.  I have added some to house furnace but only about 50galls a year to about 100 galls of furnace oil.

Been really cold last couple of weeks, -28-30 C at nights so burning up a lot of wood.  Do soak some of the crappy wood in wmo but not much.

Not much trouble to light off the shop furnace. Sometimes I have to help with a bit of burning newspaper in the firepot, but my blending usually lets it light off with minimal smoke.

So hello to all and I will lurk a while

Larry

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