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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil not igniting
« on: February 12, 2017, 06:43:10 pm »
Has anyone had contaminated oil with water?

Did diesel water removal additives fix it?

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Waste Motor Oil / Oil not igniting
« on: February 10, 2017, 11:32:02 pm »
I thought I had contaminated oil at first because I could not ignite it, but now I'm beginning to think my 30609-5 nozzle is partially clogged. If I remove the nozzle, I can ignite the oil. If I spray compressed air through the nozzle and clean it, it will ignite for 30 seconds and then clog up again.

Is it possible my nozzle went bad? Is this common?

I have a CleanBurn 2800 if that matters.

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: March 03, 2015, 02:40:46 pm »
Sorry, I just saw this.

I haven't had much free time with the snow we've been having so I haven't taken her apart yet and replumbed it. I also am waiting to get the air line in.

I did however make one great purchase, check it out :) http://weatherdirect.com/TX60.aspx?&wusid=318245&bxid=2147923158

And I noticed what is seen in the picture below in the bottom of the burner, is this common?


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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: February 23, 2015, 05:37:13 pm »
Thanks for the pics. I will track down a check valve and order that and the strainer. I also wanted to order a few extra oil filters and an extra nozzle or two.

Do you mount the pump to something else and then plumb the 3/4" tube into the tank that way through the tanks large (approximately 2" hole) or are you mounting the pump to the tank itself somehow?

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: February 23, 2015, 11:29:28 am »
How does this look?

#1 is the screen (where do you get those from, Home Depot?
#2 is the check valve (same question)
#3 is the 3/4" tubing (can I use pvc here)
#4 is 3/4" street L
#5 is the 3/4"m to 1/2"f swivel
#6 is the inlet 1/2" flare fitting
#7 is the outlet 1/2" flare fitting

Can I use 1/2" CPVC from the pump to the burner? It's rated for over 100psi at 200F. I guess the inlet side is some sort of 3/4" black PVC pipe?


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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: February 23, 2015, 09:12:45 am »
The pump still did not kick on after seating all of the wires that I could and will kick on when I smack the side of it (like a starter) so I ordered the pump today. Thanks for that link, you saved me a few bucks plus they are in Delaware and 1 or 2 days shipping away.

I'll be nursing it until the motor comes in and then be swapping motors as soon as I can. Is the swap difficult or does it require any special tools? I need to draw out the new plumbing system as well and get those parts too.

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: February 22, 2015, 01:46:56 pm »
I'm going to check them after I get some sleep and I thought of that but I know definitively that the pump starts when you smack it (like a starter) so I'm not sure how wiring fits into the equation if the pump starts sometimes and created pressure when on.

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: February 22, 2015, 01:19:55 pm »


The black wire to the thermostat was not connected very well, as soon as I moved it the unit started itself, so we are back in business and down to only 2 issues ... pump motor replacement and plumbing redo. God was good to me with this storm and plowing so I have some extra money now :)


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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: February 21, 2015, 02:00:41 pm »
I am getting power to the yellow disconnect. I checked that before I had to leave to go plow. The green and orange lights do not illuminate.

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: February 21, 2015, 11:55:58 am »
... and now it won'y turn on, start or illuminate but it is getting power to the junction box?

In your opinion should I give up on this thing and cut my losses?

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: February 21, 2015, 10:23:54 am »
Some strangeness continues

I went out to start her this morning with a reset and she started but the flame looked weird and was 1/2 the length it normally is. It stayed that way for about 2 minutes, which is also uncharacteristic, but the pressure stayed the same. Then it went out and would not start after 5 or 10 resets, although pressure was climbing and the oil pump was working and I verified that oil was spraying as well as air. At this point, I figured I had oil and air, the only thing missing was spark. I pulled the boiler out enough to get a map gas torch flame inline with the oil coming out and it lit but then went out, then it lit again and went out and then it lit stronger and continued? I don't know if the oil had junk in it or if my electrode is on its way out. Now it seems to be starting normally???

Here is my pump sticker

AO SMITH Motor 316P717

Looks  like the number you supplied is a good replacement for it ... looks like this seller is out near you, do you know them?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-AO-Smith-Reversible-Motor-316P717-1-6-HP-1725-RPM-115V-XEL2014-FREE-SHIPPING-/261723416661


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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: February 20, 2015, 12:03:06 pm »
Ok, lots of hits on that. When I get home I will check the sticker, confirm and then get a pump and start drawing how I can replumb this.

Thank you

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: February 20, 2015, 11:44:13 am »
Will do, I did not know you could get the motor separate from the pump assembly, that'd be great! All of my google searches turned up the whole assembly and not the motor separately.

I will do the motor and replumb at the same time and hopefully have permanent success after that.

Is this the motor?

http://www.wasteoilheaterparts.com/110hpburnermotor33175.aspx

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: February 20, 2015, 09:59:34 am »
Hi,

The set screws appear to be tight. It's behaving just like a starter that is on its way out, the coils get energized but it won't rotate until you smack it a little.

Can these pumps be rebuilt or am I better off buying another one?

Here is the latest pattern, that seems to be very consistent. I will go into the building and see that the unit is not running and hasn't been running for some time as the temperature is lower than the thermostat should allow it to be. I can tell how long it hasn't ran for based on how much lower the temperature is compared to where it should be. I will try to start the unit, and it will not generate oil pressure so before the run time window ends I will smack the case of the motor and it will start to rotate and create pressure and run after this. Depending on how long it has been sitting without running depends on how many times it will stall out before running on its own. It can stall out anywhere from 0 to 5 times. I attribute this to air in the lines when the pump is not running but the unit is trying to start its flame.

You can hear it sputter a little and then it will usually flame out, even though oil pressure stays in the 4 to 5 psi range on the gauge. Is the gauge slow to react with some sort of hysteresis? Do you agree that the unit can flame out due to a lack of oil or oil pressure, even if the gauge is reading 4 or 5 psi? Could the gauge be reading the pressure of the air inside of the oil lines and not know the difference, so it appears there is oil pressure there when it is really air pressure at some points mixed in, which causes flame out?

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: My cb2800 won't start ... thoughts or ideas?
« on: February 18, 2015, 10:26:23 pm »
I have never had to reset that button on the pump. How much disassembly is required to get to the set screw?

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