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Waste Motor Oil / Too Much unburnt oil
« on: October 07, 2021, 02:55:13 pm »
Hello all,
I have been using an inherited waste oil burner for a few years now.  I have posted in previous years and people here were such a big help!  My unit is old.  very old.  a Clean Burn unit.  but it has been running good the last couple years since I rebuilt it.  it is a burner mounted onto a converted coal boiler.  Anyways, end of last year, I started having this random problem where it would just randomly shut itself on and off real quick.  like the whole thing lost power, then suddenly got power.  that problem manifested itself worse the beginning of this year, and I traced it to a bad controller - not a big deal, done.  But I actually moved my whole burner to a different spot in the room over the summer (lots of renovations in the furnace room including replacing my main soft coal boiler with a stoker)  Anyways, so the issue I am having now, is too much unburnt oil, when i shut it off and open up my unit the inside of my boiler is coated with oil - and the smoke out the flue is not clear like it usually is.  I thought I wasnt getting good spark, but my transformers tests ok (I can pull a real good spark with a screw driver) but my electrodes were pretty crappy, so I replaced them.  They are positioned right according to specs.  it is now running better (more consistently) but I still have unburnt oil.  I turned the oil pressure down a little lower than where I kept it last year, about 5psi or just below (last year around 6) but still no difference.  I am trying to figure this one out

Things that changed during the renovations
- using a different chimney
- possibly sucking a little more air (I havent adjusted the air inlet at all, but I see a few small gaps around it that I havent finished caulking) 

Would any of these effect it?  I thought too much air should not cause unburnt oil, but maybe i am wrong? 
I am going to caulk it more, today or tomorrow, But wanted to get the ball rolling with some opinions.  Thanks for the help!

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: November 05, 2019, 06:41:29 am »
So everything has been running great!  I have been very happy with it, it has met my "expectations", meaning I dont expect it to be a very efficient machine, but I do expect it to be able to work reliably, which it does.  It seems to be going through oil just as fast last year (again, not outside of my expectations) but is running much more reliably, as i said, I have never had to check on it.

However, I wonder if i could 'expect' more out of it, more efficiency.    I guess the only way that it could be running more efficiently would be if it could produce a hotter flame with still the same amount (or same ratio, i suppose) fuel/air ratio.  more oil pressure means more oil, so turning up the oil doesnt exactly help that cause.  I know we have mentioned adjusting the air inlet.  I have it set where the flame 'looks' pretty good, and the smoke coming out my stack is cleaarrr.  but if i wanted to try and fine turn it a little more to get a hotter flame, how should i do that?  a little more air, and a little more fuel?  just spit-balling.  let me know if anybody has any thoughts. 

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: October 05, 2019, 10:16:26 am »
tested the solenoid, it still works.   so installed it all again, and it is running fine at the moment.  not really sure why i was not getting any oil out the nozzle last night for that period of time.   i guess we will wait and see how it goes.    thanks for all your help!

also on a side note, it ran fine all last night.   hadn't done that in a while!  haha

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: October 04, 2019, 08:00:23 pm »
Ok, test it with 120v?

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: October 04, 2019, 07:43:13 pm »
i disconnected the solenoid after i noticed it getting hot.   
i guess i did not pay enough attention to the oil gauge to notice if it was bouncing or spiking or not.   it has been running OK now, plunger removed and solenoid disconnected.   i might have had it powered for a few minutes at one point while the plunger was not installed, maybe thats why it got hot?   (trying to remember the sequence of events)     is the solenoid no good anymore?  did i ruin it?   :/         Ok to let it run for now without the plunger in?   

i really appreciate all your help all the time!

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: October 04, 2019, 07:22:28 pm »
i had the gauge set to about 4.5psi.    i started messing with it from time to time after oil stopped coming out.   i opened up the solenoid, and took that plunger out, then put it back together without it.   oil eventually started coming out...and eventually it lit.   and eventually it started running ok again.    i also noticed that the electrical part of the oil solenoid was super hot.    i assume that is maybe not working anymore?   probably shorted inside or something and not working.   i have it running right now without the plunger/valve piece inside the solenoid.   

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: October 04, 2019, 06:49:57 pm »
So i started up the furnace this evening to get it going for tonight.  it fired right up, like usual, then it shut off after about 10 seconds and would not even come close to firing again.    eventually realized that there is no oil spraying.   my pump is on.  oil is coming out the line right before it goes into the regulator.   so i am guessing it is either the solenoid, or the regulator - which is brand new!   

questions are.....
1.  can i test the solenoid just by putting 120 volts to it, to see if it operates?   
2.  when i open the oil line, roughly how much/how fast should the oil be coming out?   mine comes out like a steady flow/stream, but there is not tons of pressure behind it....enough pressure to make a little arch in the oil stream.

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: October 03, 2019, 11:58:52 am »
Ok, i will check that and adjust that and see how it goes.

yes, it seems to be running OK.  it will get its first full night run tomorrow night it looks like, according to the forecast for central PA.    Thank you very much for all your help!

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: October 02, 2019, 11:45:01 am »
Well, I did have some flu issues, I fixed those, and no more smoking out the boiler!  I got the air set to about 13psi and the oil set so the smoke is clear coming out the top.  It is running great!   

my only other question is, that piece that broke that i showed a picture of, the piece that opens or closes the air inlet to the fan (i fixed it, JB weld!)....how do i know how to adjust that?  when should it be opened more, or when should it be closed more?

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: October 01, 2019, 06:21:18 am »
i can open the door and view my flame, yes.  any easy way to describe a good looking flame?    ive also gone by clear smoke out the chimney, is that correct too?

overfiring? 

also, i notice that on the inside of the furnace door there is some insulation type material laid all over it, almost for the purpose of sealing the door?  sort of like insulation you see in a house, but obviously it must be different, that stuff would catch on fire.  when i cleaned out the furnace last year i think i accidentally cleaned some of that stuff off.  is there insulation/sealing material out there meant for what i am describing? 

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: September 30, 2019, 07:13:13 pm »
So mostly good news....got it all back together, and it fired right up!!   sounds a lot different too, like whistling more.  not sure if thats just because its clean and working better or not...im not complaining, just commenting.   

so under normal circumstances, what should the air and oil pressures be set to?   

also, not sure why it would do this, or maybe its a different problem...but it seems to be smoking out of the furnace doors a lot more than it ever did before.   is that simply a draft issue, or could that be something else?  never had a draft problem.  is that just because its not really cold out yet and its not drafting hard like it will in the cold weather? 

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: September 22, 2019, 03:16:07 pm »
Ok good to know.   

next, is there a part number for this piece?  that spins around the outside of the air inlet for the fan, for more or less air.  I took it off during cleaning, and to clean it cause everything was filthy, and lets just say it didnt make it very far through that process lol.   or are there any tricks for a makeshift one? 

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: September 22, 2019, 01:48:43 pm »
Ok, how could it have been more simple?  i actually took every measure to make it as simple as possible i thought.  i welded up that bracket so the pump sat right by the top of the tank.  there is the filter, then it elbows right down to the bottom of the tank.  unless you are referring to my 3 piece union...i wanted a way to be able to remove either just the down pipe or the filter/pump without needing to remove them all as a unit.  that is the only junction of any pieces.   simpler how?

I have a different air filter regulator on it then what it came with, so i am guessing that I wont be using those pieces then.   

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: September 22, 2019, 07:45:46 am »
Also, I am looking for a replacement Eye.  just preemptive maintenance, i guess.  Mine is honeywell C554A1687, when I search it, i get a lot of Beckett 7006U, which says it also interchanges for the honeywell part number that i listed.  is this correct information? 

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Waste Motor Oil / Re: Oil pressure regulator
« on: September 22, 2019, 07:37:00 am »
Ok so i have re-positioned the pump so it is right off the top of the tank, and the line comes up, through the cartridge filter, and right into the pump.   

I have started disassembly of the burner.  my disassembly questions so far are, 1. I can not find the location of the big O-ring, the flat rubber washer things, and that white screen.  2.  besides the small O-rings down inside which i see, do the solenoids need to be disassembled any further than this/is it possible to further disassemble, or just clean them out as they are like this shown in the picture.

thanks for all your help!

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