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Your source for burning waste oil for heat.

Spam activity has been on the increase.  I have tightened registration security as well as beginner post security to help prevent a flood of spam on the forum.  I hope this doesnt complicate things too much for people wanting to post.

Welcome to the 2018/2019 heating season.

Leaves are turning and temps are dropping.  Time to get the oil burner ready!
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Enjoy the forum, have fun, and most importantly be safe!

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Posted by: u1100l, March 23, 2019, 05:55:20 pm
Replies: 0

Views: 28

xxCan't think of a title?
Posted by: u1100l, March 23, 2019, 05:55:20 pm
Replies: 0

Board: Waste Motor Oil
Views: 28

None of this is for a hobby or should be taken lightly. To see a big flame shoot out of a tube powered by WO or even WVO and say I can heat my... whatever, is reckless to say the least. The WO salamander heater I'm speechless.

It takes alot to get these to run properly. Please be careful. They will run away when you least expect it.
Waste oil holding/heating tanks,sketchy at best and should not be sold.

Don't cheap-out on Safety controls, limits, aquastats, heat exchangers.
The "burn what ever you want"  is wrong.  They do not self adjust to different oils.

Because making a flame in a drum dosen't mean you can put it in a heating appliance.
To do that is another set of rules.

A good 80% of these burners will burn down your house is second. The false information that goes along with them and the false sense of security is of great concern.

No new mouse traps have been made.  Be careful and pay attention.
Posted by: u1100l, March 23, 2019, 02:24:43 pm
Replies: 18

Views: 1570

xxCollecting/Transporting Drain oil
Posted by: u1100l, March 23, 2019, 02:24:43 pm
Replies: 18

Board: Waste Motor Oil
Views: 1570

Alright, alot here for constructive critisim to say the least.

Need photos way to much and all over the place.
Posted by: u1100l, March 22, 2019, 02:55:50 pm
Replies: 8

Views: 3153

xxHello from Ireland
Posted by: u1100l, March 22, 2019, 02:55:50 pm
Replies: 8

Board: Welcome Center
Views: 3153

What model Buderus are you running? 
Posted by: u1100l, March 22, 2019, 10:58:54 am
Replies: 2

Board: Drip System
Views: 1571

xxfirst draft of outdoor WMO furnace--What do you think?
Posted by: u1100l, March 22, 2019, 10:58:54 am
Replies: 2

Board: Drip System
Views: 1571

Nope, I got that wrong. No claim denied coverage.
Posted by: Oilburner, March 22, 2019, 01:32:10 am
Replies: 7

Views: 3714

xxWaste oil spill... What a mess!
Posted by: Oilburner, March 22, 2019, 01:32:10 am
Replies: 7

Board: Waste Motor Oil
Views: 3714


You haven't had a real oil spill till you loose 200L in one go.

For clean up, I use KOH or NAOH. it's available at commercial cleaning places in 25KG bags. it's the concerntrate of soap basically.

If the oil is pooled I get it up with a  squeege or a wet and dry vac. Doesent have to be all gone and I'm not too fussy with it.
I then spray the area down with water then sprinlkle on the KOH. Best not to use bare hands, it WILL take the skin clean off. You will feel it burn like no tomorrow as well.  Once the KOH is sprinkled round, broom the powder around and mix it with the oil and water. You'll get a creamy substance which is then soap.  I like to let it all sit a while and then come back about every 5 Min and broom over again and add more KOH if need be. If' it's hot spray more water without it running off to keep it wet. After about 15 Min broom over and hose off.

You concrete will be cleaner than when you started with veg and only have a light stain with diesel oil. that is fouls stuff indeed. I don't think there is really any way to clean that off, it soaks into the cement itself and always leaves a stain.

Best thing I found to get rid of the stain if you have to is mix up a think cement mix and spread it over the affected area then sweep it off when dry.  doesent' get the stain out, just covers it back up to the regular cement colour.
Posted by: Oilburner, March 22, 2019, 01:21:08 am
Replies: 6

Views: 1295

xx Outdoor wood boiler conversion
Posted by: Oilburner, March 22, 2019, 01:21:08 am
Replies: 6

Board: Waste Motor Oil
Views: 1295


A " Hybrid" wood burner would work.
You could NOT just dump an amount of oil every so often. The oil would want to flash to vapor and there would not be enough air and the thing would smoke like a bitch and then probably over heat the boiler before dying down to nothing again.

The way to do it would be to Pump the fuel in a controlled and relatively constant manner. If the thing has a thermostat, then trigger  an amount of oil when heat is required and shut off when not.

You do not need ( or probably want) some superfine mist, anything that is better than a direct stream would be fine. A bit of flattened copper tube would be fine.  Spraying the oil on the coals/ wood will do the rest.

I would use either a Diaphragm pump like the little 4l/hr caravan type water pumps or the larger fuel pumps.  A gear pump would be good but I have not yet seen one capable of handling oil with any longevity. I make my own pumps using engine oil pumps and scooter motors and I literally pump 10's of thousands of liters with them over years without problem.

You could have 2 or more squirters on the pump to spread the oil around on the fire and just " tune" the output to the firing rate you wanted.

If you wanted to do away with the wood all together, just build a forced air type burner and it it in the fire box of the boiler.  I'm doing one for a spa heater and it will simply be a 2 Step. Idle when heat is not requires and ramp up to full power ( whatever I set that up at) and then back to idle.
Posted by: u1100l, March 21, 2019, 07:52:05 am
Replies: 4

Board: Siphon Nozzle
Views: 268

xxFlame ring and jet style
Posted by: u1100l, March 21, 2019, 07:52:05 am
Replies: 4

Board: Siphon Nozzle
Views: 268

Isn't that one of the burnerswith the heated oil tank on the right. Float switch, heating element(s)..??

Stinkin' fire hazzard!
Posted by: Oilburner, March 21, 2019, 07:05:38 am
Replies: 13

Views: 199

xxTypes of oil
Posted by: Oilburner, March 21, 2019, 07:05:38 am
Replies: 13

Board: Waste Motor Oil
Views: 199


My guess is it comes down to the oil itself.
Diesel oil is lighter than regular engine oil.  Trying to think with diesel is chasing ones tail as diesel is not that thin itself.
A far better thinner is Kero or turps.  Much lower viscosity even though diesel seems pretty thin in comparison.
I do not recommend petrol as the vapors can fill a tank and have undesirable results.

One solution may be to take a leaf out of the Veg oil Vehicle book.  Add a second small start up tank with thinned oil or Diesel and fire the burner up on that. Once it has a bit of heat, change over to the regular fuel oil.

As far as stratification goes, I have never seen it in properly mixed oils.  I have done tests in fridges and freezers and never seen it but there are many types of oil and I don't know what the long term effects are if one lives in some frozen winter hell hole.

May people take blending to be like trying to mix oil and water but it's not. There is no reason on a molecular level that the oils will separate but particles certainly could.
Depending on the oil used, any dissolved water can cause problems.  nit usualy a problem with mineral oils/ Fuels but certainly can be an issue with veg oil.
Posted by: Russ, March 18, 2019, 05:24:12 pm
Replies: 1

Views: 55

xxHello New to site
Posted by: Russ, March 18, 2019, 05:24:12 pm
Replies: 1

Board: Welcome Center
Views: 55

Greetings and glad you stopped by!  Enjoy the forum!

Russ
Posted by: u1100l, March 17, 2019, 11:00:46 am
Replies: 1

Views: 343

xxCK burner oil splatter in chamber
Posted by: u1100l, March 17, 2019, 11:00:46 am
Replies: 1

Board: Waste Motor Oil
Views: 343

Chamber to small. These burners need alot of room for the flame.