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Welcome to wasteoilheaterforum.com
Your source for burning waste oil for heat.

Spam activity has been on the increase.  I have tightened registration security as well as beginner post security to help prevent a flood of spam on the forum.  I hope this doesnt complicate things too much for people wanting to post.

The 2017/2018 heating season has arrived.

Leaves are turning and temps are dropping.  Time to get the oil burner ready!
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Posted by: Russ, Today at 08:39:46 pm
Replies: 1

Views: 12

xxNew member introduction
Posted by: Russ, Today at 08:39:46 pm
Replies: 1

Board: Welcome Center
Views: 12

Welcome to the forum MT6!  Sounds like an interesting setup you have there with the solar hot water panels.  Wow, I'm amazed that you can get that much heat out of them!  Sounds like you have a pretty nice combo with the solar & waste oil.  Good luck with your project!

Russ
Posted by: Russ, February 21, 2018, 10:22:10 pm
Replies: 1

Views: 30

xxJust wanted to introduce myself
Posted by: Russ, February 21, 2018, 10:22:10 pm
Replies: 1

Board: Welcome Center
Views: 30

Greetings Ron!  Thanks for stopping by.  We have a small community here, but it seems to grow every year.  Great story you have and I like the fact that you make all that you can.  That should prove to be very helpful in your waste oil heater project.  Are you from the states?

Have fun and stay safe!

Russ
Posted by: ShopSpecialties, February 18, 2018, 10:22:24 pm
Replies: 23

Views: 610

xxTransfer Pumps?
Posted by: ShopSpecialties, February 18, 2018, 10:22:24 pm
Replies: 23

Board: Waste Motor Oil
Views: 610

Well we have had temps as low as -38*F this Winter so far. My customers are pumping anywhere from 55-500 gallons at a time when they have to go get oil and they do not want to spend hours/days moving this volume of oil with a hand pump.

Not all of the Redline pumps are recommended for cold oil. The one for cold oil has a 3/4 horse, 1,140 RPM Baldor motor that costs $500+ by itself. The pump moves approximately 16 GPM. I have a couple of customers that purchased this pump from Redline and they are happy with it. Yes they are expensive but they work.

I have been doing nothing but waste oil heater/boiler sales and service for 27 years here in Montana. I also design oil storage and pumping systems for my customers. Some of those customers are burning up to 15,000 gallons a Winter and they need a reliable no screw around system that works.
Posted by: Russ, January 31, 2018, 09:58:45 pm
Replies: 6

Views: 174

xxsolid state relay
Posted by: Russ, January 31, 2018, 09:58:45 pm
Replies: 6

Board: Waste Motor Oil
Views: 174

I don't have heat sinks on mine currently, but I am thinking of adding them.  I actually have 2 SSR's in my system.  One controls the cartridge heater and the other controls the small compressor and blower motor.  I haven't ever had a problem with the cartridge heater relay, but I have with the other.  I suspect its because it is a continuous load rather than the intermittent load from the cartridge heater. 

What happens is that when the water reaches high temp, the aquastat cuts power to the cartridge heater and when the block drops below 200 degrees, the alarm contacts on the PID open and shut the relay off that controls the compressor and blower motor.  If it's cold out and the boiler starts again soon after it shut down, the relay is still hot and wont provide full current to the compressor and blower motor causing the system not to start.  If I jump the terminals with a wire, the system will start and run fine, but it's the initial start up that doesn't work.  If the system cools down more, then it has no problem starting again, so its definitely a heat problem.

You probably wouldn't have a problem just running the cartridge heater, but heat sinks are cheap and if you have room for it, it certainly wont hurt.
Posted by: 46farmallM, January 02, 2018, 09:49:03 pm
Replies: 0

Board: Drip System
Views: 152

clipfirst draft of outdoor WMO furnace--What do you think?
Posted by: 46farmallM, January 02, 2018, 09:49:03 pm
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Board: Drip System
Views: 152

Hello all, I am new here and I have a prototype idea for an outdoor oil furnace, the drawing is attached. I was thinking of having the bottom of the first combustion chamber removable for cleaning as I would be running unfiltered drain oil. I see a guy on you tube who makes burners out of fire extinguishers and they seem to run well. I am thinking I could insulate the inside of the shell with ceramic wool and have an insulated flex pipe ran through my garage window. The big blower that circulates the air would be attached off center of the shell so it swirls the air around the combustion chambers and exhaust pipes. I am thinking with 2 or 3 combustion chambers all the residual oil would have plenty of places to completely burn up and the only thing exiting would be carbon monoxide. the car muffler would contain the flame completely and act as another heat exchange.

Goals:
1. Burn unfiltered oil, so I would have to use wider fuel line. I could pressurize the vessel with something quiet like an air brush compressor for fuel delivery.
2. Preferably no preheating, with having 3-4 burn chambers. I could keep the oil supply in the garage to keep it a little warmer if need be.
3. No spray nozzles. I built a gun style spray burner one time, It worked well on the first batch of oil I burned because it was mixed with gasoline, but once it was straight waste oil, I couldn't get any kind of combustion what so ever. Plus, I don't want my air compressor running all the time.

4. No filtering, I would like to just be able to dump any crap in my container that is petroleum based oil that doesnt contain antifreeze. Its hard enough to get oil to burn in -10 degree temperatures that I don't want to have to spend more time screwing around with cleaning the oil, when I could just burn it, and remove the primary burn chamber to clean that.

Any after thoughts?
Posted by: ShopSpecialties, December 26, 2017, 07:54:39 pm
Replies: 9

Views: 298

xxRelay help needed!
Posted by: ShopSpecialties, December 26, 2017, 07:54:39 pm
Replies: 9

Board: Waste Motor Oil
Views: 298

The easy way to check if the igniter is working is to lift it up while it is trying to fire. If it is good you will see the spark jump to the electrodes. 
Posted by: ShopSpecialties, December 20, 2017, 08:23:48 pm
Replies: 8

Views: 384

xxWaste Oil Boiler install
Posted by: ShopSpecialties, December 20, 2017, 08:23:48 pm
Replies: 8

Board: Waste Motor Oil
Views: 384

Quote from: acarter on December 20, 2017, 03:32:55 pm
Ok, so I just checked my nozzle inventory...

The nozzle that was installed when I got the burner was a 9-2. I After a few days of frustration, wondering what the heck I was doing wrong, I installed the 9-31 and it's been working almost perfectly since then. I also have a handful of 9-5's which after a little research seems to be the stock nozzle.

So it seems that I'm running a slightly smaller than stock nozzle, which makes sense because my blast chamber is defiantly smaller than the original Clean Burn furnace.

Now that I think about it I'm guessing because the previous owner burned Vegetable oil he needed a smaller nozzle and that's why the 9-2 was in there, does that make sense?

Are nozzles something that wear out pretty often? I'm not sure how old the current nozzle is, but is it something I should have a good spare of?

Also, what is everybody setting their preheater temp to? The Clean burn manual says 150, but it seems to work better at 170.... I've read the over 180 and there is a high risk of carbon buildup in the heater.

Thanks,
Austin

I would go with the 9-5 nozzle. They do wear out over time but it takes 1,000's of gallons of oil running through them before they start to wear. You can take them apart to clean them if they get plugged. I do not run anything over 150* of preheat temp and you will bake the oil quickly especially with that burner having the oil element on the oil. The CB 4000 burner was short lived and the worst of all the Clean Burn designs.
Posted by: olscout99, December 17, 2017, 10:34:02 am
Replies: 1

Views: 219

xxClave Waste Oil burner vs CKBurners
Posted by: olscout99, December 17, 2017, 10:34:02 am
Replies: 1

Board: Waste Motor Oil
Views: 219

Other than about $800? Just kidding, I'm going to guess that the pump is the main difference. As far as I can tell, and I'm pretty much a newbie to waste oil heating, there really isn't much 'new under the sun' in burning waste oil. Most all of the designs that work use a siphon feed, either from a constant level tank or a pump. Physical layout of where you want to use it will have a bearing on what you want to use, for me a tank wasn't really handy. Most people on here and on altfuelfurnace on yahoo groups seem to think the metering pump is the best way to go if you can afford it. The nice thing about the Clave pump is that it's adjustable, and with a metering pump the temperature or makeup of the oil doesn't effect the flow rate. I'm currently using a pump but with pressure regulators, and it does require a little tweaking during the day as the oil flow rate changes as it warms up and thins out. I'll likely go with a metering pump eventually myself, but a lot of the 'factory' waste oil burners do use the pressure regulated pump like I'm using now (mine is from a Lanair furnace).  From reading the Clave advertisement on Ebay, I do like the fact that the oil is not heating when it's on standby, but right now my setup is the same way, more by accident than design. That should make for less buildup in the block, although again, there are factory furnaces out there (my buddy's Cleanburn for example) that run the block heater anytime the furnace is powered. He doesn't seem to have any problems with his, and he bought it well used and has used it hard for three years now.

I suggest you talk to Craig and the Clave people, and explain exactly what you're looking for and see what they say. They each will know their products better than anyone, and that will give you an idea on what is best for your application.
Posted by: acarter, December 11, 2017, 08:04:36 am
Replies: 14

Views: 656

xxNew to the forum/ thinking about burning waste motor oil...
Posted by: acarter, December 11, 2017, 08:04:36 am
Replies: 14

Board: Waste Motor Oil
Views: 656

I just made a new post with some pics of the install, let me know if you have any questions.

Austin
Posted by: Rapidrob, December 06, 2017, 10:15:32 pm
Replies: 4

Views: 397

xxWaste oil stove update after Photobucket paid images
Posted by: Rapidrob, December 06, 2017, 10:15:32 pm
Replies: 4

Board: User Projects & Pictures
Views: 397

The stove body will heat to 300 degrees F. at fast drip.